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you know, one thing about barack obama, he is an excellent speaker. he did this whole thing about the life of julia. remember that one? and it seems like the campaign never ends. when he talks he caulks about christmas and families and stress. i want to call up assad here of john boehner and i want you to compare the two in terms of their language. >> we have a debt problem that is out of control. i believe it's appropriate to put revenues on the table. the revenues on the table are going to come from gets who? the rich? there are ways to limit deductions and close loopholes and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates which we believe will harm our economy. >> can i tell you something? that was so boring and so complicated and it didn't speak to me. what spoke to me was christmas, american families and stress. yes? >> that's what obama does. he speaks -- this is the point talking to the country. is he using all of those -- him meeting with the middle class family is kind of absurd. boehner is bo
you know, one thing about barack obama, he is an excellent speaker. he did this whole thing about the life of julia. remember that one? and it seems like the campaign never ends. when he talks he caulks about christmas and families and stress. i want to call up assad here of john boehner and i want you to compare the two in terms of their language. >> we have a debt problem that is out of control. i believe it's appropriate to put revenues on the table. the revenues on the table are going...
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boehner but on the other hand you are not president obama and they have been willing to come out and say, we are willing to raise the tax rates all the way up to the clinton rate, 39.6%, can you give us some specifics of things you would consider cutting both in terms of social programs and entitlement reform. >> well think e bottom lin-- we bottom line is it would be negotiating against ourselves. >> chris: isn't that what they just did? >> no. the bottom line is democrats led by or president, all most uniformly say here is our 1.2 trillion of getting to the $4 trillion. it is revenues. it is up to the republican leadership, prodded, correctly and boldly, by senator corker and others, to say they'll go along with that and then we'll start negotiating on the other side. it makes no sense for us to negotiate against ourselves. >> chris: you buy that, senator corker? >> no, look, chris, we have to have a $4.5 trillion solution here and, really, i know senator schumer, i have talked with him numbers of times personally. he knows the general things we need to do and, candidly, most repub
boehner but on the other hand you are not president obama and they have been willing to come out and say, we are willing to raise the tax rates all the way up to the clinton rate, 39.6%, can you give us some specifics of things you would consider cutting both in terms of social programs and entitlement reform. >> well think e bottom lin-- we bottom line is it would be negotiating against ourselves. >> chris: isn't that what they just did? >> no. the bottom line is democrats...
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boehner but you're not president obama. they've been willing to say we're willing to raise the tax rates all the way up to the clinton rate, 39.6%. can you give us some specifics of things you would consider cutting in terms of social programs and in terms of entitlement reform? >> the bottom line, chris, is that would be negotiating against ourselves. president obama agreed -- >> isn't that what they just did? >> no. the bottom line is democrats, led by our president almost uniformly say here's our first 1.2 trillion of getting to the 4 trillion. revenues. it's up to the republican leadership prodded correctly and boldly by senator corker and others to say they'll go along with this and then we'll negotiating on the other side. it makes no sense to negotiate against ourselves? do you buy that, senator corker? >> look, chris. we have to have a $4.4 trillion solution. i know senator schumer, i've talked with him numbers of times. he knows what we need to do and most republicans and democrats do. i think it's time for the pre
boehner but you're not president obama. they've been willing to say we're willing to raise the tax rates all the way up to the clinton rate, 39.6%. can you give us some specifics of things you would consider cutting in terms of social programs and in terms of entitlement reform? >> the bottom line, chris, is that would be negotiating against ourselves. president obama agreed -- >> isn't that what they just did? >> no. the bottom line is democrats, led by our president almost...
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gentlemen, house speaker boehner said on friday that another week has been wasteded. senator corker, given that president obama won the election, and seems to have most of the political leverage, what is the realistic deal to be made in the next 23 days? >> first of all, i think something will happen. i hope it is large enough for people like me that want to see entitlement reform to vote for. the president has leverage and the republicans have leverage with the debt ceiling and the c.r. which ends in march and hopefully cooler heads will prevail. there are different theories coming forth on how to deal with this and again, chris, it is a unique moment in history, where every developed country in the world, economists on both sides of the aisle, know the greatest threat to our country is fiscal solvency and we have a situation where the minority party is trying to leverage the president into doing something that is great for our nation and it is a very unique time and i hope the president soon will see the light. >> chris: senator schumer, three weeks left. what is th
gentlemen, house speaker boehner said on friday that another week has been wasteded. senator corker, given that president obama won the election, and seems to have most of the political leverage, what is the realistic deal to be made in the next 23 days? >> first of all, i think something will happen. i hope it is large enough for people like me that want to see entitlement reform to vote for. the president has leverage and the republicans have leverage with the debt ceiling and the c.r....
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have president obama and speaker boehner argued themselves into a corner on this fiscal cliff? >> the president has a clear, simple position. he wants to prove he can dominate by getting the rates up. either you are going to go over the cliff or find some kind of dramatic concession for the president. >> how does boehner give on rates. he said i oppose tax rate increases because tax rate increases cost american jobs. that gives you no room to give on rates. >> joining me now is former vermont governor and howard dean and republican strategist. general tmen, it's great to have you hear. if both president obama and the speaker postured themselves to the point any concessions look like a loss? >> i'm not paying that close attention to the negotiations because i believe we ought to go over the cliff. if you want maximum deficit reduction with the tax rates we paid with bill clinton and cuts as well as human service cuts, that's how you ought to do it. any compromise is going to be for the cliff. i'm for the cliff. >> newt gingrich, now governor dean there. do you feel the same way?
have president obama and speaker boehner argued themselves into a corner on this fiscal cliff? >> the president has a clear, simple position. he wants to prove he can dominate by getting the rates up. either you are going to go over the cliff or find some kind of dramatic concession for the president. >> how does boehner give on rates. he said i oppose tax rate increases because tax rate increases cost american jobs. that gives you no room to give on rates. >> joining me now...
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but, look, as soon as what president obama wants is speaker boehner say he's going to give on the tax rates. as soon as that happens it will unlock everything else. the white house says boehner knows they will be willing to make structural reform to entitlements and take on his own party on that matter, but they want that concession from boehner about the rates. and you saw boehner walk right up to the line on friday by suggesting maybe it could go from 35 to 37 or give a little bit. they tried to walk that back. as soon as that conservation happens, that will unlock everything. >> schieffer: can speaker boehner deliver the votes in his caucus if in fact he makes a deal? >> i don't think he that's say it. high doesn't have to say it out loud. s that's thing. he needs to signal it in some way and then you'll have a two-stage process. they'll do the fiscal cliff stuff and tax reform by august 1 of next year. >> but the speaker so far has not had a rebellion underneath him. he has said things that continue to move in this direction without a rebellion. here's what happened oned with. the
but, look, as soon as what president obama wants is speaker boehner say he's going to give on the tax rates. as soon as that happens it will unlock everything else. the white house says boehner knows they will be willing to make structural reform to entitlements and take on his own party on that matter, but they want that concession from boehner about the rates. and you saw boehner walk right up to the line on friday by suggesting maybe it could go from 35 to 37 or give a little bit. they tried...
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and speaker of the house john boehner to strike a deal. in just 24 days, more than $500 billion in tax increases take hold. frustration is evident on capitol hill. boehner saying friday there's no progress to report. we'll find out the latest on fox news sunday. host chris wallace joins us with a preview. good morning, chris. >> good morning, melanie. >> we're not hearing compromise at the top, but i'm wondering if among the ground troops, are we hearing any willingness to compromise? >> no. i think that what you're seeing in public is what they are seeing in private, which is that neither side is willing to make a deal. now, it may be we're not close enough to the deadline for people to get to where their bottom line position is. but you talk about speaker boehner. in a news conference friday, he said another week has been wasted. and i get very little sense that they, behind the scenes, are making much progress. we'll talk to two of the key plaifers in all of this at the top of the hour. charles schumer of new york, one of the leading de
and speaker of the house john boehner to strike a deal. in just 24 days, more than $500 billion in tax increases take hold. frustration is evident on capitol hill. boehner saying friday there's no progress to report. we'll find out the latest on fox news sunday. host chris wallace joins us with a preview. good morning, chris. >> good morning, melanie. >> we're not hearing compromise at the top, but i'm wondering if among the ground troops, are we hearing any willingness to...
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>> if boehner works out an agreement with president obama, it has to be an agreement that brings 120 or 140 house democrats. if he does that, he's going to pass it. he can be the speaker of a bloc of republicans working with democrats or he can be the speaker of the hard right fighting the democrats. there's no middle ground here. he will not carry the hard right. >> i really do think at the end of the day, larry, what you describe sounds like sort of the white house negotiating right now. easily saying, yeah, we can go over the fiscal cliff. but at the end of the day, this is a president, he would have to own it. he may not say he has to own the recession. but if we go over that, he has to own that. >> he knows that. >> and that's something he definitely knows. >> i think he agrees with bob that the recession would be his problem. >> it would be a giant disaster. he needs to improve things and show that he's a leader. and, you know, here's the big question, whether he's miscalculated by coming out and saying, we have to raise taxes on the upper brackets. that is a red line. >> right
>> if boehner works out an agreement with president obama, it has to be an agreement that brings 120 or 140 house democrats. if he does that, he's going to pass it. he can be the speaker of a bloc of republicans working with democrats or he can be the speaker of the hard right fighting the democrats. there's no middle ground here. he will not carry the hard right. >> i really do think at the end of the day, larry, what you describe sounds like sort of the white house negotiating...